>> neil: switch gears on the budget impasse talk the fiscal cliff for the brink. many say republicans give away the store. >> if they do, they are with tax hikes but no reduction of spending then they give away the store. >> they have to enforce the promise. neil: that makes sense or make it happen when the spending cuts have been. >> to extend the bush tax cut by then they should do all spending cuts simultaneous with each other simpson bowles makes sense but if they don't happen it is an excuse. neil: it is peppered with good intention of leaders whose say stick to your end of the bargain. >> money has to be on the table. criminal defense lawyers they of front because they don't pay. [laughter] give me my retainer. you can do when. republicans could give on the rate. 37 ha in return when the $1 trillion of spending cuts have been. what did the obama arithmetic that $1 trillion we have already cut. >> 800 billion for the board that would be financed anyway, there has to be real cuts happening at the same time. neil: rudy guiliani. i am headed to washington to sav